What do you think?

I really want comments on this one.  Please cite your source if you quote anybody.  If you’re Catholic, were you taught that “outside the Church there is no salvation”?  When did you learn it?  Do you think that’s true, and why or why not?  Does the Church still teach this?  And IF either (a) the Church never taught this doctrine, or (b) it’s been abrogated by some other teaching, why bother to be Catholic?

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One response to “What do you think?

  1. I first learned the term when I was Orthodox, reading St. Cyprian of Carthage, a third century martyr.

    There are two ways of understanding this.

    1) Where the Church is, there is salvation, and no where else.
    2) Where there is salvation, then the Church is somehow there in a mystical way.

    Throughout history, opinion has gone both ways. The current understanding, as contained in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, is the second. Logic and experience would seem to support this view, as well. Scripture says that the nobody can say ‘Jesus is Lord’ without the Holy Spirit so enabling him. Now, if the Holy Spirit can be present to that extent in, e.g., the preaching of Billy Graham, can I doubt that the Spirit will in the end lead one so faithful to Christ (granted, according to a flawed understanding, but still, it would appear, with a pure heart) to salvation?